are games good art? No

• well games are art, what else can they be

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• I think so too

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• but I think they are predominantly entertainment

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• yeah. does that bother you?

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• "art" is something of itself

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• not really

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• just when everything is "art" (games, tv, podcasts, design) then the meaning gets mired

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• I guess the "what is art?" is the wrong question

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• the question is "what is good art?"

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• and games rarely are good art

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• what do you think?

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• I totally agree with you

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• and do you have an example of a game that is good art?

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• there was an interactive piece at the Poznan Biennale that I heard about

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• I think I might have made it up though

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• haha, what's on your mind?

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• it was a piece that reacted to the volume of your voice and you read a speech

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• the louder you read the louder a sound of cheering played

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• and you couldn't help but read louder and louder and get wrapped up in the sound

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• that sounds like something, doesn't it?

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• wow, yeah, that's really interesting

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• so it kinda gets you hooked up with the cheer, and you want more.

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• I only heard about it

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• I might have made it up

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• haha, well someone should make it if you made it up

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• there is a game in one of the Saw films where you win by cutting the most parts of your body off

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• that sounds like art to me

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• haha

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• that's pretty dark

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• haha

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• but normative video games aren't good art

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• they are fantastic games

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• the best entertainment one can imagine

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• but not good art

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• what do you think?